Speaker 0 00:00:06 <inaudible>
Speaker 1 00:01:01 Good evening. Thank you for joining disability and progress, where we bring you insights into ideas about and discussions on disability topics. My name is Sam. I'm the host of the show. Charlene doll is my research team, greening, Charlene, Annie Harvey engineers. Thank you, Annie. Um, just a reminder that you can hear us. If you don't catch us live, we are a podcast. If you like to hear other podcasts, you can go to our website and click on the podcasts and you can hear others besides this one. Um, our, you can hear us on your smart phone by downloading the app. If you want to do that for future shows, this is 90.3 cafe and cafe.org. Tonight. We are speaking with cow tipping press. Actually, that's not a person but company, but we have Rachel Lieberman in here with us. Hello, Rachel? Hello? We have also Christina Craig. Hello, Christina. Hello. Thank you for joining us. And we have Vince fury, LA fury, Ellie, Ellie. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 00:02:13 Well, good evening, Vince. Thank you very much for joining us from cow tipping press and we have a couple students with us too. Why don't the students tell us who they are students. Can you, um, address or introduce yourselves? Um, my name is Michael grace. Hello, Michael. And who else might we have? Do we have anyone else with us? Mohammad, can you click unmute? That's okay, so Mohammad hi, thank you for joining us tonight. Yes, he said I got this potato chips by Omar and okay. No, we're not going to read it yet. We're not going to read it yet. So be patient and I'm just kinda kind of ask some questions and then I'll bring you guys back to read. Okay. And I think we had another student join us because we not. Brian, do you want to introduce yourself? Maybe a van mute?
Speaker 0 00:03:50 Nope.
Speaker 1 00:03:52 I think too shy. Okay. Well, I have to move on because it's radio and silence. Isn't good. Um, so why don't we start out by talking about what is cow tipping press and how did it get its start Vince, do you want to take this one?
Speaker 2 00:04:15 I was just about to press. I think it's like just a little fun gathering for some say would people, when they learn, do some writing, like, well, like sometimes they got words of the day that we'll have fun and make things out of.
Speaker 1 00:04:30 And um, who qualifies to be in the classes?
Speaker 2 00:04:39 Ellen. Christina, you might want to take that one. I don't know how,
Speaker 1 00:04:44 Yeah, I can take it. This is Rachel with cow tipping. Um, so we're an organization in, based in Minnesota and we teach in published creative writing by adults with developmental disabilities. Um, and you know, there's many different labels, right? That different people prefer and use, but anybody who feels comfortable with being published, um, under our organization can take our classes. And, um, right now where with students from transition plus the Minneapolis public schools transition program, um, who are high school students, who've had their work published just this month. Excellent. So how many students do you have per class? Usually.
Speaker 0 00:05:25 Okay.
Speaker 1 00:05:30 Class has up to 10 students in it. Uh, okay. And how long are the classes?
Speaker 2 00:05:39 Eight meetings. Eight weeks. One meeting each week.
Speaker 1 00:05:43 Oh, okay. All right. Um, so it kind of just is a pretty laid back. Sounds like type of thing. Uh, I'm sure it's kind of changed a little. How, how long has count tipping press been going, Rachel?
Speaker 3 00:06:01 Uh, so we've been running for over five years now. Um, and of course this year has been different because we met our first year, which is its own exciting, challenging adventure. Um, and I think Christina, if you'd like can speak a little bit more to what our classes are like and if our students want to chime into that's great.
Speaker 1 00:06:21 Yeah. So Christina, so now how has it been, how has the change has gone during COVID and how is it different in the classes now?
Speaker 3 00:06:31 Yeah, so my first time teaching with cow tipping was this semester. So, um, I only don't know anything else. Yeah. I only know counts have been on zoom actually. Um, but our classes are, are, were two hours, um, every Friday afternoon at the end of, um, our students pretty busy school weeks. And we did a combination of looking at different readings, um, and responding to writing prompts, um, and sharing our writing during our classes. Um, and our class was beautifully small. And so we got to hear one another's voices, quite a lot, um, which I really was grateful for.
Speaker 1 00:07:17 So Vince, excuse me. You must have taught before the pandemic was cow tipping then. Huh? I was a client a couple of times. Oh, okay. So how do you feel doing this in COVID? Is it, does it feel hard or is it easier?
Speaker 2 00:07:34 It's easier than I thought it would be. Yeah. What makes it easy? Never done anything on zoom. Yeah. And I was, I got chosen to be an apprentice this time. Um, wasn't a student did was easier than I thought it would be more fun.
Speaker 1 00:07:47 Oh, that's cool. So you didn't really miss the live interaction?
Speaker 2 00:07:52 No, I know what you could wander as we used to meet at like a library room once a week. Yeah. It was like right on the board and the Prentice would just circle around the tables, looking at the claims rating, but I'll do the COVID we had to go on soon, which again, for me made it pretty easy to teach.
Speaker 1 00:08:13 Well, that's cool. I'm glad that that, you know, some people think that's harder or they miss having live experiences with people, but zoom is, well, it's pretty close, right? Yeah. And some people think, Oh, it's not, it's kind of easier because you don't have to go anywhere. You could, you know, sit in your pajamas unless you cared about how someone looked at you.
Speaker 2 00:08:39 That's a lot easier than I thought it would be.
Speaker 1 00:08:41 Yeah. That's good. We have cow tipping press with us. And so we have several people in the zoom room here. We have Rachel Lieberman, Christina Craig and Vince fi or Ella fury, Ella pronounce it. Huh? You're L E fear. Ellie. Okay. Oh my goodness. Okay. Sorry about that. Um, thank you for being patient with that. And I think you're an apprentice, right? Vince? Yeah. So what is, what does that mean to you? Like what is apprentice for cow tipping press do
Speaker 2 00:09:20 Well, it's me again. I took it up like, I'm just like a second instructor with Christina. So I just like would talk to the students, say you like what the word of the day is. Give them tips, how to do their writing.
Speaker 1 00:09:34 And do you, you must enjoy writing then. Do you hope to be a teacher with co tipping sometime?
Speaker 2 00:09:41 Well, actually I'm in college right now. Hoping to be a writer for making books for the shelves. Oh, excellent. Well, I've been writing since I was 13.
Speaker 1 00:09:52 Oh, okay. So how many books have you written?
Speaker 2 00:09:55 Well, I don't have any on the shelf. I just be having fun. Like writing little poems and little books.
Speaker 1 00:10:00 Yeah. Well I'd like this. I had the students introduce themselves earlier and I think we had somebody else come in. Uh, we had, tell me your name again. Sorry. Omar. Omar, Omar. Thanks for coming in with us, Omar. So, um, do we have three people? No, I think we have four or okay. So you might help me with the names and everything, Christina. Yeah, of course Vince, either one of you, um, I want you to pick somebody who you would like us. I'd like them to kind of tell about how they liked being in cow tipping, press and then read one of their pieces. Is there anyone who would like to share first? Omar? Would you like to go?
Speaker 4 00:11:01 Well, yes but not. I have a short story poem for everyone that you already know.
Speaker 1 00:11:06 All right. What's the name? What's the name of your story? Or Mark?
Speaker 4 00:11:11 Good question. I call it calm. Alright. Go for it. I don't calm. It's relaxed. So peaceful. So quiet you Sue. Then it makes you immensely, whatever you lose.
Speaker 1 00:11:28 Very good. Well, thank you, Omar. Um, so did you S what, what made you want to write that? Do you feel calm a lot or do you feel like you need things to help you be calm?
Speaker 4 00:11:44 Oh,
Speaker 1 00:11:44 Good. Cause in this time and age, sometimes it's hard to feel calm. I'm glad you feel calm. And how do you like being
Speaker 3 00:11:54 In cow tipping, press
Speaker 4 00:11:55 And out of, I like peanut cow tipping. It makes you want a beak. It will become, it could return.
Speaker 3 00:12:02 Oh, good. And how long have you been in? Is this your first class? Good. So who's the next person who would like to read? Yeah. Um, I also have another piece by Omar if we want to do multiple readings for students, Sam. Yeah. It's perfectly fine. Would you like to read another piece? You have quite a few pieces in here.
Speaker 4 00:12:32 Okay. Homeschooled everything's world. The buildings are white. Our rooms are white or floors or what, even our shoots or what, even our cats are, what our hearts are, what even our capers or what even <inaudible> at the most bully, our gloves are white.
Speaker 3 00:12:51 Tell me about that, that story. Like what made you write that
Speaker 4 00:12:57 Only does the idea for this poem? It came from me. If I, if I found it, everything, everything would everything's outward colors.
Speaker 3 00:13:05 Ah. And so was that, is, do you like white or what was it that inspired it?
Speaker 4 00:13:14 Yes. Yes. I like it because it's very, my white boy. My color is, I love the colors
Speaker 3 00:13:21 And it's it's, it looks always so clean and bright. Right. Uh, let's see. Anybody else? Yes. Um, are you writing a white t-shirt and the background behind you is white. That's your color? Um, yeah, we could, uh, Brian, would you like to share some of your writing? It's okay. Brian, we want to hear it. Brian, can we hear your voice? Are you there? Okay. What do you like to share this story?
Speaker 0 00:14:08 I'm not sure if they're,
Speaker 3 00:14:10 There we go. Oh, there you go. Yeah, we can. We can't hear you very well. So make sure you're close to your microphone. Can you try talking again, Brian?
Speaker 0 00:14:24 God.
Speaker 3 00:14:25 Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think it's going to be too hard to hear. I'm not sure what his internet is like. Brian, can you turn the pick? Do you know how to turn the picture off, but keep your sound on. Cause sometimes that makes your voice come through sounding nicer. Your voice sounds good, but it's just very quiet. I think I can't read. Do you want to read or no,
Speaker 4 00:14:56 I can't read, but could you guys do moving?
Speaker 3 00:14:59 Okay. I will stop moving. I was just moving to see the different pieces that you have. Would you like to read this piece?
Speaker 4 00:15:08 I go, okay. Well I M P page share by prime P it might be RO uh, well, uh, B my P colors. Red allow.
Speaker 3 00:15:33 Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Um,
Speaker 4 00:15:38 So it's serious Tina.
Speaker 3 00:15:41 Huh? Thank you, Brian. Thank you. Yes, we can hear you. Um, how many, how many books a year does cow tipping do? Uh, each class that we have publishes a book, um, when it's finished and it's a collection of two to four pieces by all the authors who are in each class this year. Um, we published around over 20 books this year and we also the best of our third, best of volume, which is kind of the best pieces selected from our last, um, 10 to 15 books. Excellent. So you have several classes a year then we do. Yes. Um, so Christina, if it's okay. What, what was your background before you came to Cal tipping? Yeah, um, I'm a student at the university of Minnesota I'm in my last semester. Um, and I studied history and I want to be a teacher. Um, and I care about the intersections of education and disability, um, and also love to write and, um, kind of loved all of my interests combining, um, at Cal to bean.
Speaker 3 00:16:57 Um, we'll see what the future holds. I definitely will be teaching. Um, and this experience kind of brought me to think a little bit more about kind of what context I want to be teaching in. Um, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Uh, Rachel are all the books, poetry that are written or are there various stories? Yeah. In our classes, we do poetry and fiction and nonfiction and drama. Um, so it's a collection of those different genres and a lot of it is probably pretty genre bending. Um, and yeah, I that's, it's, it's a variety in each book. Alright. Um, we're going to take another short break and we will be right back.
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Speaker 1 00:19:54 And this is disability and progress. And this is cafe I 90.3, FM, Minneapolis and carefree I don't or RG and Charlene dolls. My research team. I'm Sam, Jasmine. Um, Annie Harvey is my engineer. We're speaking with cow tipping press and we have, uh, Rachel Lieberman with us and we also have Christina Craig and we have Vince Fiorelli. Did I get that Vince? Oh, you poor thing. I'm so sorry. Oh my goodness. Okay. So I wonder, um, what if I could ask any one of the students who wants to talk about what does writing mean to them? Like what do you, how, how does writing make you feel and why do you do it? Who wants to answer Michael? I hear you, Michael. Why don't you tell me what writing means to you and why you like to do it?
Speaker 6 00:21:04 Um, I like, I don't want to.
Speaker 1 00:21:19 And why do you like writing?
Speaker 6 00:21:22 Because
Speaker 1 00:21:29 Omar, how about you? Why do you like to write?
Speaker 6 00:21:35 <inaudible>
Speaker 1 00:21:39 Excellent. Um, let's see. Who do we have that Mohammed Hamann. Are you there? Yes. Why do you like to write Mohammed?
Speaker 6 00:21:54 I like to write because I like to write like a dog.
Speaker 1 00:22:01 Yeah. Do you write stories about dogs? Poems about dogs?
Speaker 6 00:22:07 Yeah, just a poem. Pop dogs.
Speaker 1 00:22:10 Oh, excellent. Um, do you have something you could read for us that you've written Muhammad? I can share some of your writing on the screen. Is there a piece that you're thinking about sharing that you've written?
Speaker 7 00:22:36 Okay.
Speaker 1 00:22:37 You have my yellow story that you could share?
Speaker 7 00:22:45 Yes.
Speaker 6 00:22:48 Hold on. Let me see there. That's all I got Yolo story.
Speaker 1 00:22:53 Okay. Go for it.
Speaker 6 00:22:59 Yellow circle. Oh, it looks like a sun. And when it's, when it's hot, just us air conditioner. When it's yellow, a yellow grapefruit, a yellow lemonade. When I am hot air needs ice. Okay. Air with ice drink and open the window and read a book and read a Dr. Seuss book, the Canada hat. Excellent. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:23:42 Thank you very much. Mohammad. Do you like to read another one?
Speaker 3 00:23:47 We have the invisible stories On your last what's on what's on the last page of the book. I also have it on the screen.
Speaker 0 00:24:04 You want to read this one? Yes. Cool.
Speaker 6 00:24:13 No one can't seem me because I am invisible. I am invisible because no one cannot see me because I am invincible to go for a walk and to wear a cloak. And when that's why I keep me keep walking. I am event stubble. I need a disguise. Need the antidote to go back to normal people. Can't see me. No one. Now anyone can see me. Surprise. I am. I'm here.
Speaker 0 00:25:08 Do you like invisible things? Mohammad is. Yeah. Is that the, what's your favorite poem that you've ever written
Speaker 3 00:25:25 Ahmed? Would you like to finish your piece or would you like to stop?
Speaker 0 00:25:32 Okay. You did a good job. Thank you. Yes. Thanks. Um, Christina, I'm wondering what, what you feel, um, what does this experience give to you?
Speaker 3 00:25:49 Yeah, that's a really wonderful question. Um, so experience has given me a lot. Um, it's given me something to look forward to every week. I really enjoyed teaching these students, um, and connecting in this weird pandemic world, even though everything is virtual. Um, so experience also expanded my idea of where words can take us as human beings and how words can connect us. Um, like we imagine places and we can tell our feelings using these things, we call words and he can know how other people feel by reading or listening to their words. And, yeah, I've been thinking a lot about how words make possibilities and like, if something is possible, then I dunno. I've just been like having a lot of like ramblings about writing. And I think it's really fun. And this class has also expanded my view of like what disability is and people with disabilities. Like we should be reading them and reading their work and, um, yeah, their creativity and just like the truth and honesty that all writing brings out of people is something to be honored and like respected and shared. So, um, you have a lot of thoughts it's experienced, like given me a lot, but mainly just like really awesome relationships. So
Speaker 1 00:27:21 Yeah. Vince, I'm wondering Vince, um, you were a student in this class, so now you're an apprentice. So how, what does that, how does it make you feel? You must, I mean, people kind of look up to that. I would think, you know, since you were a student and now you're an apprentice that kind of gives people these ideas of, Hey, I could do that. So how does that make you feel that you've come from the student to the apprentice?
Speaker 2 00:27:50 I feel really happy because this is like, it shows like I always wanted to do something like this, right. Helping out, uh, you know, the person like is the students and it's really makes me happy.
Speaker 1 00:28:03 So are you, can you be, you know, your apprentice, can you keep being one, can you keep working as an apprentice for awhile?
Speaker 2 00:28:15 I'm also in college frame. So I don't know if I could really stay as it is. Sorry, again, I'd like to stay, but I don't know if it's like able to, Oh, I would love to stay if I could
Speaker 1 00:28:28 Can students, um, this is just for any of you Vince or Christina or, um, anybody who can answer it, I guess, can, can a student, how many classes in a row can a student take? I think it was like
Speaker 2 00:28:42 At least two. I think it was two. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:28:46 Yeah. So we don't have a limit on how many classes a student can take. And actually our apprentice program, which Vince is a part of, was born out of students taking class after class, after class, and then day one. And the students are saying, no, you forgot to do this. Or next next we have to do that. Um, and so that program was kind of born naturally at a students coming back and being ready to kind of take on the next leadership step.
Speaker 2 00:29:12 I remember after the students, that was everybody, I did so many good ones. Everybody was begging me to be an apprentice.
Speaker 1 00:29:21 Well, that must've made you feel good. Yeah. So Rachel, um, for you, how has the pandemic changed? How you handle all these classes? Is it harder to find teachers to do this? Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:29:38 Yeah, certainly I was daunted at the start. You know, how we're going to work with students online and, and train teachers online. And I, you know, I think like all of us were really daunted about how we were going to do everything online. Um, but I feel so grateful looking back at this year. It just, um, how, how much fun we've been able to have on zoom and how successful we've been and being able to teach on zoom. Our first full zoom semester was it was a fall summer ago. Um, and we had nine classes on zoom and after a few kind of tech barriers, um, they ran really smoothly. And I think what we've realized is that, you know, the, the group of students we work with are part of a group of people who are really marginalized and isolated, always, um, in ways that kind of a lot of us had to feel for the first time this year.
Speaker 3 00:30:32 Um, so we're working with folks who were really stuck, you know, whether it's a group home or a day program that shut down, um, in kind of extra isolation and that the kind of meaningful community and chance to express yourself in our classes was extra necessary and some ways for all of us here. Um, and yeah, I've just felt really grateful for the energy that our students bring to all of our classes. And I think of everything I've had to do on zoom this year, our classes and kind of the celebrations like this of our books have been the most fun and the most rewarding and the things I actually look forward to opening zoom for.
Speaker 1 00:31:12 And so will you, or have you gone back to life classes yet? And if you haven't, will you,
Speaker 3 00:31:18 We haven't yet. Um, my hope is that we will, and maybe even this summer with vaccination starting to ramp up for people. Um, but we'll definitely still continue to do some, some classes online. I was gonna ask that. Yeah. And actually, you know, for some folks it's, it's even more accessible in some ways to deal with the Metro mobility.
Speaker 1 00:31:40 Yeah. Well, and I was wondering, can people take classes from out of town then?
Speaker 3 00:31:45 Yeah. A silver lining to pandemic, if we can call it that, um, was that we've actually been able to do classes out of state. Um, so we have one in Atlanta and potentially we'll have one in other places. So the way we run that, yeah. We partner with schools like, like transition plus and Minneapolis public schools, but also group homes and disability service orgs. And, uh, we now are not bound by geography. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:32:11 So I want, we can't really talk monetary dollars, but so as cow tipping, a five Oh one C3, or how do you guys get your money?
Speaker 3 00:32:20 We are, we're fiscally sponsored by springboard for the arts. Okay. And we, um, went over both revenue based and donation-based, and we, um, sometimes write grants as well.
Speaker 1 00:32:33 Excellent. And so when you sell the books to the students, get any of profits
Speaker 3 00:32:40 Yes. When you purchase our books, which you can do on amazon.com, um, both Kindle and paperback, and it counts as being pressed that org, uh, we split proceeds to the authors. Um, you know, all of our books are collections of various authors and we divide the proceeds from those sales and, um, yearly, we get stipends back out to our authors. And if you do, if somebody comes and they like need a screen reader or a text type book or word, book, and word, can you provide that? We can. Yeah. So there are the field books. Um, and then in our classes, we've had students use sign language, used speech to text or text to speech devices and a variety of different communication methods. And so have you, I mean, did you think that it sounds like you have quite a few classes a year and more than one at a time, right?
Speaker 3 00:33:35 Yes. So did you, what would be your hope for the future of Cal to think that's a really good question. And when we talk about a lot, I'd love to be able to reach new places, um, with our classes and really our hope always bottom line is that more and more people are reading the work of our authors. Cause it's, it's really creative and it's really beautiful. And, and when we look to read diverse literature in the world, often I think people with developmental disabilities can be left out of those conversations, even in disability, justice circles and in really radical and well-meaning spaces. So my hope is just that more and more people can read more and more stories, um, by this group. And w where do you, I'm just curious, the, the name cow tipping press, where did that come from? Yeah. Vince, do you know the answer to this one? Not really. They were just tipping over cows
Speaker 7 00:34:31 And the
Speaker 3 00:34:34 Cows are harmed in the making of this organization. Name came out of a piece by a student and in one of our first classes called cow tipping in the dark. Um, so the titles of all of our books come from student works. This one, uh, this book is called <inaudible> this class. And that comes from the piece Bryant read for us earlier that again, D row Bureau. Yeah. W what does that mean, Brian? Do you want to speak to that? What does home mean
Speaker 7 00:35:13 Red?
Speaker 3 00:35:16 So Roca is in Spanish, the color red. Oh, red. Okay, cool. All right. It's good to learn other words in other languages, right. And you want to, do you want to share more about that piece? Why you wrote it?
Speaker 7 00:35:33 Yeah. So this is a great,
Speaker 3 00:35:40 And again, Brian, it's easy to hear you when you turn your video off, He can't hear you.
Speaker 7 00:36:00 Hello? Yep. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:36:06 So tell us about that title.
Speaker 7 00:36:14 <inaudible> today.
Speaker 3 00:36:21 It's really hard to hear
Speaker 7 00:36:23 Clarity.
Speaker 3 00:36:27 We'll have to move on, I think, right? Yeah. You're sharing the names of your friends, right? You're sharing names of your friends.
Speaker 7 00:36:38 Yeah. Cause I can't see thing.
Speaker 3 00:36:44 I hope they're happy to have shout outs on the radio, everyone shout outs. Um, so Rachel, when you are, when you've been able to, um, have people from other States, it sounds like on as well. Yes. Yes. And does the springboard will support that and everything. Uh, so it's really up to the different organizations. I see. So, so each state may have a springboard for the arts type organization and they might pay for that particular class that, yeah. Their funding is from a kind of a wide range of org, budgets and grants. And so it's not always a springboard, but, um, maybe something similar. And Sam, I'm wondering if we could, um, hear from Michael who has yet to share a piece. Oh yes, absolutely. Yeah. I apologize. Michael, did you want to read one of your pieces too? Yes, please. Which one do you want to read?
Speaker 7 00:37:50 Um, about the beach,
Speaker 3 00:37:53 The beach. That's right. Okay. Please read that for me.
Speaker 7 00:37:58 Um, at the bees by the colors are so sweet and nice for comes out at night. So two, a up sky is pink, upper the Lake or B.
Speaker 3 00:38:32 Thank you, Michael. Very. And Michael, would you like to read another piece too?
Speaker 7 00:38:39 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:38:41 Which was awesome.
Speaker 7 00:38:43 We have,
Speaker 3 00:38:46 We have beat up.
Speaker 7 00:38:50 Yeah. Okay. Um, pink, pink, pink phone phone use, use use.
Speaker 3 00:39:11 Thank you, Michael. This one. Do you want to talk about what you were thinking with this poll?
Speaker 7 00:39:19 Um, I do beat up is like, um, hip hop. Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 00:39:31 And that connects to the phone.
Speaker 7 00:39:36 Um, like, um, wine is like, um, we, we, we repeat pre
Speaker 3 00:39:57 Yeah. So there's a lot of repetition here. Ah, gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, there sure is. So Michael, Michael, what is your favorite poem that you have written?
Speaker 7 00:40:10 Um, I bent, I mean, one time here, this one? Yes. Let's hear it some times. I, sometimes I do pain about care myself, doing life Inc. To tank by path where my friends find time, hours to tell the truth, your friends, and know things that are too.
Speaker 3 00:41:06 Thank you, Michael. That was about friends.
Speaker 7 00:41:11 Yep. Yeah. They're really important. Aren't they
Speaker 3 00:41:18 Know if you guys have any final comments in regards to cow tipping that you'd like to share, you could give, um, tell us where we can get the books once more.
Speaker 7 00:41:30 Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:41:36 Teachers,
Speaker 3 00:41:38 Where can we get the books, the books available on Amazon. Um, and you can also subscribe at cow tipping, press.org. Um, you can subscribe and we'll send you all of our books when they're published three times a year. Um, it's really fun package to get, and it makes really good for your friends as well. And if people are interested in getting involved, like maybe they're interested in teaching or they're interested in becoming a student, how do they, how do they do that? Yeah. Excellent. Our website is a great place to start. And again, that's how tipping press.org. Um, and there you'll find my email address. My name is Rachel. You can email me. Um, we sometimes have open enrollment classes, but if you're somebody who's involved in a day program or a group home, or you visit a library, a lot of the time talking to that organization about putting on classes is another great way to do that. Well, I want to wish Christina, I want to wish you good luck with going into teaching. Um, I think it's, it can be a challenging time. And so I wish the best of luck and Vince, that's awesome that you were an apprentice and I hope you keep going. And eventually, maybe you'll become a teacher here and I, I think you could do great things. Yeah. And are there, are there any, are there any students who have final words they would like to share on our call?
Speaker 3 00:43:12 Omar, Omar
Speaker 4 00:43:15 <inaudible> keeping his or final news when it does.
Speaker 3 00:43:28 Thank you. Omar was holding most. You have the most expressive voice.
Speaker 4 00:43:36 Great. Thanks so much, Julie.
Speaker 3 00:43:42 Any, any other students? Muhammad Brian, Michael went to have any last words
Speaker 4 00:43:49 I want to say. Thank you all.
Speaker 3 00:43:52 You're welcome. Thank you for coming on. It takes a lot to stand up and share. Doesn't it.
Speaker 4 00:43:59 There you go. Bye.
Speaker 3 00:44:02 Thank you, Brian. Thank you.
Speaker 4 00:44:10 After I got to show you my toys on Mark Mark. Oh nine. Okay. All right. Stay. Save on Mark.
Speaker 3 00:44:27 Brian. Thank you so much for coming on Stacy or Mark.
Speaker 0 00:44:34 Omar. You have lots of friends. You said it
Speaker 1 00:44:40 Well, thank you all Michael Brian, Omar. And who am I missing? Mohamad, Mohammad. Sorry, Muhammad. Thank you very, very much for coming on. I really appreciate that. And Rachel and Christina and Vince, thank you guys as well. I appreciate that as well.
Speaker 0 00:44:58 Thank you for having us on
Speaker 1 00:45:00 This has been disability on progress. The views expressed on the show are not necessarily those of cafe or its board of directors. My name is Sam. I've been the host of this show. Charlene doll is my research woman. Annie Harvey was my engineer who, when speaking with cow tipping press with Rachel Lieberman, Christina Craig and Vince Ferrioli and also the students that attended that session. This is KPI 90.3 FM Minneapolis and Kathy ad.org. Thanks for joining
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