Speaker 1 00:00:14 All right. This is Disability and Progress, where we bring you insights into ideas about, and discussions on disability topics. Charlene Doll is my research team. Hello, Charlene.
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Speaker 1 00:00:30 Yes. 6 1 2 3 7 5 9 0 3 0. We can do that for 15 minutes, and then you can go to the website, k.org and market, as Jackson would call it, to disability and Progress. And we will have it made and of course, give what you can. So tonight we're going to be reliving some old topics. And Jackson, the space bar doesn't like me, <laugh>, so I accidentally jumped the dump the computer, so to speak. Uh, Charlene's gonna tell you, well, the first one was, is gonna be Steve. Steve who is, um, talking about virtual day at the capital and Okay. Let's do it. I'm scared. Okay. Should I be all right? Where is it? How do you think it will be this year? This year is the first year that you guys have been virtual, Do you think it will be more that will be happening because of that? Do you think it will give more people a chance to connect, or do you think this will be more difficult?
Speaker 3 00:01:39 That's a great question, Sam. And, and, and you look at, this is going on a year now of us going virtual and stuff. We're doing a little bit of hybrid where you have, you know, some people in person and other people what, having Zoom or whatever the platform is, made access to people in this position a lot easier and a lot better, because we never would think of this format when it comes to having
Speaker 1 00:02:08 Right.
Speaker 3 00:02:09 A meeting. Um, look, it, there's, you know, seven of us gathered in one moment and, and we didn't have to, you know, park my car downtown Minneapolis, knock on the door and wait for somebody to come down and bring me up in the elevator and it'd be crammed in that little studio and go, Ugh, I don't wanna be here. Right? Yeah. It's like, it's like, so now you're in an environment that, that is, you know, very, uh, normal and natural to you. And so it, it's opened up that access side of it a lot better. Um, but I miss, I miss having people here. I missed the, you know, when we would have our rally days, you know, on disability day at the capital. It's huge. It was great. Thousands of people in here, you know, and then I, and I would say go out and, you know, make sure that your elected officials know you're here and, and they, there
Speaker 1 00:03:01 Is a sense of adrenaline when people are together, right? It kinda pumps people up and, and gets people going and, and helps get that energy to want to tell your stories and, and help reach out about these things
Speaker 3 00:03:18 For social beings. That's for sure. Right? Social, Yes. Beings.
Speaker 1 00:03:24 And that was Steve talking about virtual day at the Capital. I'm not sure if you remember that, Charlene, but, you know, voting is coming up, so, uh, just kind of something to think about again. And it, and we are pledging, We're right in the middle of our pledge drive, and you can call 6 1 2 3 7 5 9 0 3 0, or you can go to K F A i.org. Exactly. And Charlene, I don't know if you remember this one, but this was Richard. Richard was the, um, card mechanic. He, he corrected me. I said, I think I said magician once. He says Card mechanic, Sam. I'm like, Oh, card mechanic. And so, um, he was a lot of fun to interview. So we're gonna try to listen if my computer will cooperate. Uh, so here we go. I know <laugh>, I notice you like to be called a, a blind card mechanic. So what's the difference between a mechanic and a magician? I'm sure you get asked that all the time.
Speaker 4 00:04:27 That, that's a very good question. And I don't, I don't like to be called a blind card mechanic. I just like to be called a card mechanic.
Speaker 1 00:04:36 Okay.
Speaker 4 00:04:37 Um, a card mechanic is somebody who can control the outcome of a card gig, the techniques for the card table to make somebody win or lose a poker blackjack bridge, hold them, whatever the game, those techniques are a thousand times more difficult to accomplish than the techniques used for a magician to perform card magic. There are thousands of very good top card magicians. There are half a dozen world renowned card mechanics because they, the, the work is just so much takes, it just takes so many more years. Most hustlers, back in the 19th century, they would spend 10, 20, 30 years of their life developing one or two moves, and that's what they were known for mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I just happened to just put in a lot more time and <laugh> and, and develop, develop everything under the sun.
Speaker 1 00:05:43 So are you telling me that no casino will let you play? <laugh>?
Speaker 4 00:05:46 The casinos around the world know me very well. <laugh>, they say, Richard, how are you doing? May we buy you dinner? Stay 10 feet away from the table.
Speaker 1 00:05:56 <laugh>. I was wondering about that. <laugh>.
Speaker 4 00:05:59 Yeah, no, in fact, we know each other so well. I can tell you offhand their private home numbers and their private cell numbers.
Speaker 1 00:06:09 Oh, that's funny. <laugh>. So you have some amazing experiences in your karate. Um, when you, when you did all of this that, did you feel like that that helped you with mechanics of knowing your spatial area and everything since you had a visual impairment?
Speaker 4 00:06:31 Oh, big time. Very, very astute on your end. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, self situational awareness in the martial arts. If you're fighting someone, you need to know exactly how far that person away is, where the threat lies, how far their foot is from your face, versus how far their fist is from your face. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So that did teach me spatial awareness. But as a fighter, I was never a counter puncher. Cause as a counter puncher, I just got hit.
Speaker 1 00:07:05 Ah,
Speaker 4 00:07:05 You always, I was always on the offense. Ah. So as soon as it was time to fight, I would just, I would run down my opponent. And then once, once you have any kind of contact or know where they are, they'd, you know where every part of their body is, and you can go from there.
Speaker 1 00:07:21 And what, what part of you, what made you want to do something like that?
Speaker 4 00:07:27 Well, I went as a little me tell you a story. I was in a boys club competition. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> in San Diego, California. It was a statewide competition, and I was a very good artist. Started at five years old, I could paint and draw beyond my years. And I got a lot of attention for that
Speaker 1 00:07:51 Uhhuh.
Speaker 4 00:07:52 Then my vision started going south when I was nine. And so now I can no longer paint and draw. Ah. And so I was in this competition and I was painting three bases with the proper lighting, shadowing and so forth. And my nose was literally against the canvas mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I could just see what, what I could out of the quarter of my eye. And I, I took first place. And then there were these two boys that didn't like that. And so they, uh, came up to me, they started pushing me around. One of them picked the wallet out of my back pocket. Oh. While the other one flipped the bird in front of my faces and said, Hey, Weoo, how many figures am I holding up?
Speaker 1 00:08:40 Oh yeah, I've had that one.
Speaker 4 00:08:41 And then, yeah. And then, so then he would hold the wall for my face and go, God, any money would do. And when I would grab for my wallet, he would throw it over my face, over my head to his friend behind me.
Speaker 1 00:08:54 Oh, keep away
Speaker 4 00:08:55 A cruel game of keep away. Right. And then they start slapp me across the face with that wallet to say, Got him money blind boy. And then they, uh, took my money. They, they kicked me. They, they tripped me. And that one kicked me. Guy kicked me in the ribs. They took my, my $3, which for me was a massive fortune. Sure. Through the wallet back up me, and said, Thanks for the hotdog boy and boy, and that,
Speaker 1 00:09:21 That was it.
Speaker 4 00:09:22 That is what made me go, I wanna kick their faces in. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:09:27 <laugh>.
Speaker 4 00:09:27 Yeah. So, uh, and at that time on TV was a show called The Green Hornet starring Bruce Lee's Cato.
Speaker 2 00:09:36 Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 00:09:36 And I thought one day I would've learned karate and, and not have that happen
Speaker 1 00:09:41 Anymore. Charlene knows that she,
Speaker 2 00:09:43 Yeah. I had five brothers. So Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:09:45 <laugh>. Yeah. You had brothers
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Speaker 2 00:11:00 No, but it's really interesting that now, because this stuff is, is podcast. It's there forever.
Speaker 1 00:11:06 That's true.
Speaker 2 00:11:07 It used to be we had shows up for a couple weeks and they would go away and the next two would come up and, but now you can go back and listen to st like the whole interviews we just played.
Speaker 1 00:11:19 That's true. You can, So if you missed Richard from the, um, card mechanic episode, you could actually go catch that. Yeah, he was fun. He was a lot of fun. So let's listen to the next one on affordable, I think it's affordable housing. Uh, we did a lot on this one and talked about different income housing things. So this was during, I believe, the pandemic. And, uh, there was a lot of stuff going on with evictions and rental stuff, and they were really trying to get a grip on it. And I think they're still wrestling with it. But you can stride your way over to your phone or to your computer, or to your iPad, whichever that has the grip on you. And go to kfi.org and give us your pledge. All right. Charlene, here we go. And I wanna talk about income levels. Um, you know, I think right now it's really difficult. People's income is being affected. Um, many, many companies have figured how to have people work from home, but not all. And some companies have folded and some people have been laid off. Actually, a lot of people have been laid off. So what happens in this sense of if somebody's already in affordable care housing or affordable housing, and they lose their job? And what happens with that whole rent thing? And how does, how is this affecting everyone and and what protections do they have?
Speaker 5 00:13:01 Yeah, this is Rachel. So we're talking in early December, and we know that, uh, a lot of households have lost income. They've lost formal income, so they lost their job due to c that was wage paying, and maybe they've had access to unemployment insurance. But as of today, we don't know of any extensions. And a lot of those programs are running out of time. And people also are in income in informal ways, maybe caring for a neighbor's kid or doing some odd jobs driving for one of these app services. And there are fewer protections for those households. Certainly. Um, I did just get a, I'm so fortunate to have at my fingertips, our research team, um, reminded me that we have 100,000 households, both renters and, uh, homeowners in Minnesota who are very low income. So that's sort of the poverty line and below very low income where there's a member of the household who has a disability.
Speaker 5 00:14:00 And of those households, of those hundred thousand households, um, person with disability and very low income, over 75% of them are what's considered cost burdens. So already before the pandemic, they were paying 50% or more of their household income toward their housing costs. So we already had some really serious issues that households were facing in Minnesota. And the pandemic has, um, really emphasized in terms of the protections. What are the safeguards? Um, fortunately for the lucky few, um, who are living in some kind of subsidized section eight type development, uh, those section eight vouchers adjust for household income. And so there are some protections and safeguards built in, but for most people, that isn't how their rent works. Rent is rent and rent has to be paid, or house payments, association dues, property taxes, utilities, they have to be paid. So, um, we've had in place in Minnesota since, um, early in the pandemic, an eviction moratorium at the state level.
Speaker 5 00:15:03 There's also a CDC federal eviction moratorium. So we are not seeing a lot of evictions. They're very few in unlimited circumstances that are moving forward. But we also know the rent is still due. You may not be able to be evicted for not paying, but the rent is still due. And that households are very behind. So again, we're talking in early December, We've just wrapped up Minnesota Housing, um, had access to $100 million of Federal Cares Act funding mm-hmm. <affirmative> that we used for an emergency housing assistance program specific to covid, the federal rules, the money runs out at the end of December, 2020. We don't control that. But, um, we also, uh, were, uh, able to use, we saw households access all $100 million. That does put a real point on what we are facing in Minnesota, that we, in a short few months, we just started this in the, in the fall, um, uh, used $100 million to help people catch up on missed payments where they were already behind.
Speaker 5 00:16:05 So we know that going into 2021, uh, resources support, um, to keep people housed is going to be critical. We need more help with the safeguards. Um, there's lots of advocacy happening on that front. We hope it's successful. Uh, it is certainly, certainly easier to keep people housed and support them in place than it would ever be to recover from, uh, a wave of evictions or a wave of housing loss that would be truly devastating. And so, uh, we're continuing to work hard at the state level, federal, local advocates to push for support for people so that we don't see housing loss. We've been fortunate this far, but we have a ways to go. Can you tell with that? I will. Oh, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 00:16:49 How long the eviction moratorium is in place for.
Speaker 5 00:16:54 So my understanding, I hope I get this right, but that the federal does end this month, and this is a cdc uh, federal moratorium, but the state of Minnesota eviction moratorium is more comprehensive mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so is the, it supersedes the, the federal, but the state of Minnesota is paired with the governor's, uh, state of emergency. And so it has continued with each, uh, renewal of the, the state of emergency.
Speaker 1 00:17:23 And certainly, um, we're seeing cases rise. So the idea that if it ends federally this month, we sorely need something to be reactivated or something.
Speaker 5 00:17:37 Yeah. We certainly do. I, I watch the news every day. I'm sure that we all are in hopes that some additional, uh, you know, both at the state and federal level is where we may have the opportunity to see more resources come through. We are standing by, if we had more housing assistance to help households, we would absolutely, um, mobilize and, and work on getting that out the door.
Speaker 1 00:17:59 How have you had to change how housing services are being delivered because of covid 19?
Speaker 6 00:18:08 Yeah, this is Ger. Um, so since the pandemic began, um, we've really worked closely with housing providers across the state to make it easier for them to provide critical services. Um, and so the state has invested really significant amounts of money, um, to make this possible. There was a 5.5 million, uh, appropriation to increase housing support payments this spring. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and this helped over 20,000 adults keep their housing. Uh, there was another 26 million appropriation to that helped with homeless shelters to help them respond to the pandemic. And the other thing that, um, we did was to temporarily lift paperwork, which we viewed as burdensome uhhuh, to make it easier for people in sudden financial crisis to get assistance without having to go to their county or tribal office in person. And so these are some of the things that we are doing on our end to, because we are on, once again on that income support side, to make the services a housing services available to people in a safe way.
Speaker 1 00:19:32 I wanna ask about, you know, when someone signs up for housing, it feels like they're kind of separated with counties, like counties of different rules. So if you sign up in one county, but you know, you wanna live in another county, does it cover all counties? Or do you have to be actually live in that county to sign up to, to get housing in that county? How does this work? So, and
Speaker 5 00:19:59 This works. Yeah.
Speaker 6 00:20:00 Okay. I'll, I'll take that. Rachel, I'll start off. It. It depends on what type of housing you live in and how it is funded. So there are many housing programs out there, so it just depends. For example, if you have a HUD section eight voucher and move from one apartment to another, you might be able to take it with you. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, if you get housing assistance from one of our state income programs such as housing support or Minnesota supplemental aid, you could qualify if you move from one county to the next. So it's the, it depends part of it. And so in, in many of these cases, if it relates to moving from one county to another, county staff are really, really good at helping people determine what's possible. Go ahead, Rachel.
Speaker 5 00:20:46 Yeah, I was going to, um, pair that with what Gerrid had to say, and just that we, uh, certainly there are some programs that are portable, but a lot of that housing navigation and that housing search is put on the individual in any, um, wraparound services that they have. We recognize that housing is fixed. It's a place, you know, so you live in a place. And we do emphasize housing choice in a lot of design of programs. Um, we've learned a lot about housing choice. We want people to be able to live where they want to live in a housing that meets their needs. And so that is certainly part of program design. But, um, a lot of these institutions and systems have been around for so long that, um, there is quite a bit of navigation to be done. So,
Speaker 1 00:21:31 So if I'm in Hennepin County, but want to live in Anoka, how do I do that? I have to sign up or I have to be living in Anoka, or, I'm sorry. I guess I,
Speaker 5 00:21:42 Yeah. So on this question, I think counties are a big part of our social service system. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they don't directly provide a lot of the housing. And, um, so there, there are some location determinants that do matter in a housing search. And so especially if you are given access to a voucher, um, you have to use that in the community that issued the voucher. Okay. For at least, I think it's about a year before you can leave. Um, but I, I think that everything that, you know, falls within Gert Gertrude's area, excuse me, around supportive services is also critical to understand, because people where you live determine so much else in your life. Um, social connections where you shop, where you get your healthcare, um, where kids go to school, uh, how long you have to drive to do all things that you need to do. Right. Whether it's even transportation available. And so, uh, you know, it is a huge thing to move from one community to another and change, um, all of that makes you see the flip side more often as being concerning, which is that people lose access to their affordable housing in the community where they have roots. And that disruption, um, for people in change, in their medical care, change in their, um, where they shop and what they do on a daily basis. It's actually really disruptive.
Speaker 1 00:23:04 And what it would be some of the reasons why they would lose that housing.
Speaker 5 00:23:09 Yeah. Unless someone is in an income supported or a subsidized development, rent can go up. And unless it's funded with one of the programs we work with, um, unfortunately rent increases have been one of the big reasons why people, um, become cost burdened, or they're just paying so much for housing, it doesn't leave enough left over for all of their other needs. Um, and so that, that's a big reason why we see a disruption in housing stability.
Speaker 1 00:23:36 Uh, can you talk a little bit about what a case manager is and what their tasks are? Like? How do they help somebody who's looking for housing?
Speaker 6 00:23:46 So case managers, um, are really important, uh, particularly when we are, uh, talking about pe older adults and people with disabilities. Because at their core case managers are really there to walk alongside individuals who need a little bit of support. And what they do is they provide person centered and culturally responsive information, uh, resources and monitoring to help, you know, to really help people and families to access the supports that they need. Um, and this is really, the research really indicates that case managers really make a big difference because, um, they walk alongside someone for as long as they need.
Speaker 1 00:24:33 Okay. And is everyone who has, is applying for affordable housing able to get a case manager?
Speaker 6 00:24:42 You know, I actually don't know the answer to that question. That's okay. Um, I, I, I, I do know that, um, folks that are, uh, on medical assistance do qualify mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, depending on their needs. So the needs really drive what somebody ends up getting. Um, and I think that's, you really, uh, kind of like the core, at the core of how somebody accesses those services.
Speaker 1 00:25:12 And that was, I remember doing this, this, that was a complex show because it, you were dealing with so many different facets of housing and, um, during the pandemic. And I, I think it's an ongoing thing. Uh, I know Charlene, you and I both have a friend her, she just told me her rent is going up $200 and I think it's time to get 'em back on. Yeah, maybe so. Yeah. Um, it's just an amazing thing, how it never stops. Uh, it's, you know, something that needs to be touched based with often, I think. And I think, uh, housing will be, I don't know if it will ever go back to how it was. We'll see. You think it will, but I'm, I'm skeptical, but that's okay. But I am not skeptical with our listeners. Our listeners are great. They've been there for us for a long time and we've been doing this show a long time.
Speaker 1 00:26:09 Charlene, you you been doing this? I know I've been doing this show a long time, but you're, you're getting your, you're getting your wings. You're about eight years now, I think. Yeah. See, that's, that's good. That's good. Um, and you're tuned to Cafe I 90.3 and this is Disability and Progress. I'm Sam, and she's Charlene Doll. And we are here during pledge time and we will love for you to support, You can go to K a i.org and support us and hit the little button to say that you are pledging to disability and progress. Long time. It's been, and sometimes I'm really impressed by people when they comment on, uh, different shows. You know, we had a pretty touchy show of, uh, last week <laugh> about, um, uh, a place where rehab services were held that's moving. And I know a lot of people listen to then. So we hope that those people will come out and support and go to kfi, Ida Orgy and give us, show us show us some love, and, uh, give us your support monetarily. Of course. So do you remember all the housing things, Charlene? I don't know if you,
Speaker 2 00:27:31 I, yeah. Once I've listening to it again, it's like watching a rerun and I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know <laugh> and it was tough times and I am kind of wondering, you know, cuz all that, a lot of that stuff stopped and so we didn't really get the end of the story.
Speaker 1 00:27:48 No, I don't know now what's happening. And I know there's still a huge need for housing and that is something that will be, I think, ongoing for a while. If you had to pick your, I'm gonna ask you this. If you had to pick your favorite, do you have a favorite show that we've done? Maybe you should think about it. I'd like you to talk about, I know there's something new that's kind of happened. What about the housing stabilization? What is it and how does it help, um, a person with a disabilities doing this whole navigation thing?
Speaker 6 00:28:25 Sure. This is great. I'll take that. Um, so housing stabilization is a brand new benefit mm-hmm. <affirmative> in our Medicaid program, and it helps people with disabilities and older adults or with two things. So the first one is to find housing mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and the second thing is to, uh, maintain stable housing. And this, uh, benefit came about, um, because the state recognized two things. The first is that, um, having affordable housing, just having available affordable housing is not enough for people who have a disability because those individuals may need support mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, to navigate the system, understanding at least, um, all those really, um, complicated processes. So housing stabilization is, uh, is able to provide those services for people. The second piece, uh, is that, um, there is a closed link between health and housing. And so this is the reason why it, we are able to turn this into a Medicaid benefit because when we take care of people's housing needs, uh, we are also taking care of their health needs. And so really, really excited to report that since we launched just in July, over 2000 people have already been served through this housing stabilization program. And, uh, with each passing day we are seeing more and more people reaching out for assistance. And we are really, really excited that we, we've finally been able to really connect housing and health through this, uh, Medicaid benefits with housing stabilization.
Speaker 1 00:30:29 So what are the qualifications for getting this housing stabilization? Is it to be on Medicaid?
Speaker 6 00:30:35 Yes. You have to be on Medicaid. You, you have to be on Medicaid, um, to, to receive housing stabilization benefits.
Speaker 1 00:30:44 Okay. Is that the only qualification?
Speaker 6 00:30:47 So typically when we're thinking about this type of benefit, you, you think about, um, how you qualify for Medicaid, uh, uh, services and there's all that background information about income. Do you have a disability? How old are you? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, all of those go into how you qualify for Medicaid. And then once you're in Medicaid, um, then that, that, that allows you to be able to access this based on the needs that you have.
Speaker 1 00:31:15 And we are back on disability and progress. This is KFI 90.3 fm, Minneapolis and K F a I org. And um, yeah. The housing thing was interesting. Uh, just to let everyone know, we're during our pledge ride, you can touch base with us by pledging and going to K a i.org and earmark for Disability and Progress. And Charlene, I gave you an assignment. You did. I signed during the things and I said, What was your favorite?
Speaker 2 00:31:46 One of the most compelling, uh, authors we had was Christina Stark. Yes. And it, her book was Carnival Lights and she, uh, described these, all these horrible things that happen to an indigenous girl as she navigated life.
Speaker 1 00:32:12 Right,
Speaker 2 00:32:13 Right. It was, it was com I mean, I, I've kept going. I couldn't put the book down, I just kept reading it. I'm like, Oh my God, oh my God. Oh god. It's just like, wow. And she, what it was this a, I can't remember now. Was this her story?
Speaker 1 00:32:31 No, it was not her story. Um, she had just known people who had had it, um, situations like that that and was writing. She compiled it. Yeah. Yeah. She compiled it and it was writing for the numbers of people that this had had happened. You know what's really even more startling to me was after that you started hearing, um, people finding more mask graveyards mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, in regards to these schools when the kids were sent off to these schools and you started hearing the different places like the Catholic church and, and various places come and apologize for things that had happened. Um, and the things that should not have, you know, happened as far as people taking their children away from parents and wrecking that whole style of life there. And I found it interesting that she, I like, I I wanted to call her and say, Did you time this <laugh>? Cuz it was so well timed. Um,
Speaker 2 00:33:32 Oh yeah. All the Canadian stories too that from uh, Yeah, I found out of those
Speaker 1 00:33:39 Graves. Right, right. Exactly. So I think that was, there was a lot to be said about that and I'm, I'm really glad that she was able to come on and, and that was 2021. We just, we have done a lot of authors. I do encourage people, if you have topics that you wanna talk about, send them to me and then I'll get in touch with you. But send 'em to Disability and
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[email protected] and tell me what you'd like to hear. Tell me a topic you'd like to talk about here. Uh, tell me an artist that you think I'm missing, uh, you know, or a book on disability topics that you think is great. Or of course, a an author who has a disability who's written a book. Um, I think all those things apply. I think what's one of mine, I think one of my favorites, well we've had some really good information on, uh, medical stuff. I always enjoy you always telling I'm doing the medical stuff. I hope I'm not too boring with the rest. But I always really enjoy a lot of the medical things cuz we have so much that happens in our world. And I think a lot of people don't know the, the medical things that are happening, let alone all the disabilities that there are. But we've done things like, um, talked about transplantation, which is coming a long way. And soon I think transplanting organs will be, you know, not near as I I'm hoping that'll be more like, Oh, you need an organ? Okay, we can fix this. Uh, I'm hoping that that's the way it goes. So we did some on transplantation and that to me was really fascinating and I found it enlightening. You never know what one totally goes through when they're having to have a transplant organ. So,
Speaker 2 00:36:23 Well, I think what we do is we, we take a different avenue on from the mainstream, uh, information. We dig a little deeper, we get the, the real experts. And you, I I've had people say, Oh, that was a really a good show and it's because it, it was information, it was real information. It was from the, the horse's mouth. And, and I think that's what people really are starving for.
Speaker 1 00:36:52 I hope so. And I I do try to not just be, well right now we're just kinda talking and, and, and hoping you listeners are listening and, and will, um, be willing to give us your support. But we, when I usually come on it, I, I really try for us to bring really timely topics and also topics that cut to the chase, you know, talk about what needs to be talked about. We did that with Metro Mobility. We hadn't not too long ago show on Metro Mobility where we talked about the different changes that have been happening and things that are going to happen and things that, uh, need to change probably <laugh>. So give us your support disability, oh sorry, kfa i.org. And if you wanna be on our emailing list, you can do that at Disability and
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